From: Fred Galvin Subject: Re: Power Set Cardinality & Axiom of Choice Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:25:10 -0600 Newsgroups: sci.math Summary: Aleph-nought as the cardinality of a power set? On 4 Jan 2000, Daryl McCullough wrote: > Fred Galvin says... > > > >On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Jonathan Hoyle wrote: > > > >> Can it be proven without the Axiom of Choice that Aleph-nought is not > >> the cardinality of any power set? Thanks in advance. > > > >Of course. Cantor's theorem, 2^m > m, does not involve the Axiom of > >Choice. For 2^m = aleph_0 to hold, m would have to be less than > >aleph_0; and the only cardinals less than aleph_0 are the finite > >cardinals. (Every infinite subset of N has cardinality aleph_0.) > > You seem to be assuming that every set is either finite > (i.e., can be enumerated by a finite ordinal) or has a > countably infinite subset. Is that true without choice? No, that's not true without choice; an infinite set with no countably infinite subset (equivalently, an infinite set which cannot be put in 1-to-1 correspondence with any of its proper subsets) is called a Dedekind set, and the existence of such sets is consistent with ZF. But I wasn't assuming anything about the existence or nonexistence of Dedekind sets. When I wrote "Every infinite subset of N has cardinality aleph_0" I was using N to denote the set of natural numbers, not an arbitrary set; I should have been more explicit. It *is* true that every subset of omega is either finite or countably infinite: if X is a subset of omega, the function f defined by setting f(x) = |{y in X: y < x}| is a bijection from X to some ordinal less than or equal to omega.