From: "Peter Hamer" Subject: Re: Help on non-integer derivatives Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:49:33 +0000 To: Dave Rusin Summary: FARIMA and fractional derivatives Dave Rusin wrote: > Thanks. Could you say something about how > > FARIMA = fractional auto-regressive integrated moving average? > actually makes use of fractional derivatives? I'm not sure if it's fractional derivatives or fractional integrals. Either way its probably in terms of finite differences rather than derivatives. I've not really got beyond a black-box understanding that they can be [need to be] used for time series with long-range dependency, where the time- series may well be fractal in nature. eg see http://www.amstat.org/publications/jasa/abstracts_97/sept/ling.htm http://math.bu.edu/INDIVIDUAL/murad/methods/time_series/ My own interests have lead my down a multifractal wavelet model path rather than using FARIMA models. [If nothing else last year taught me a lot of new buzzwords.] > I'm curious because as it > turns out there are some real technical hurdles even coming up with > a decent definition of them. I'm not into fractional calculus myself, but was exposed to the differential operator D a little at university -- way back in the 60s so the memory isn't too fresh. In terms of D the definitions seem fairly straightforward (actually calculating them could be quite a different matter!). http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DifferentialOperator.html http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FractionalCalculus.html What are the `real technical hurdles', if you can explain them simply? Peter