From: John Mason
Subject: Re: New website: AI in finance and investment
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 13:51:44 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.math.recreational,comp.ai.genetic,comp.ai.neural-nets,sci.math,comp.ai.genetic
Looks like a tremendous resource. My interest is in using such tools not
for portfolio optimization, but in optimal 'harvesting' of a portfolio
while in retirement. Believe T.Rowe Price charges several hundreds
dollars to accomplish this, on an ongoing basis, and claims to use Monte
Carlo techniques.
WOnder if anyone has published detailed information/software on this
narrow aspect of finance optimization. Anyone? Thanks. -- John
> Franco Busetti wrote:
>
> While developing a thesis on portfolio optimisation I spent a lot of
> time gathering information on heuristics and artificial intelligence,
> specifically focused on investment and finance.
>
> I've put them together as a website of resources for the fields of
> general heuristics, neural networks, genetic algorithms, simulated
> annealing and tabu search; with databases, articles, references,
> journals, software, links, conferences and education for each field.
>
> See www.geocities.com/francorbusetti/.
>
> Hope it adds value,
> Franco
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From: jmb184@frontiernet.net (John Bailey)
Subject: Re: New website: AI in finance and investment
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:46:49 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.math.recreational,comp.ai.genetic,comp.ai.neural-nets,sci.math,comp.ai.genetic
Summary: [missing]
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 13:51:44 GMT, John Mason
wrote:
>Looks like a tremendous resource. My interest is in using such tools not
>for portfolio optimization, but in optimal 'harvesting' of a portfolio
>while in retirement. Believe T.Rowe Price charges several hundreds
>dollars to accomplish this, on an ongoing basis, and claims to use Monte
>Carlo techniques.
I am in a position similar to yours and have found a number of
interesting leads on this subject. To my delight I finally found a use
for the math I learned in graduate school.
As an example:
http://www.ggw.org/donorware/kelly/ addresses the optimum mix of
growth vs safe securities.
A sampling of useful articles in my reprint collection:
http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cond-mat/0009437
http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cond-mat/9910212
Drop me a line without your anti-spam email address and we may find
useful things to discuss.
John
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From: Lester Ingber
Subject: Re: New website: AI in finance and investment
Date: 30 Dec 2000 15:03:01 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.math.recreational,comp.ai.genetic,comp.ai.neural-nets,sci.math,comp.ai.genetic
The website is a great addition to the e-literature.
The Kelly page is interesting. I think the point should be made that
you can do better by taking into account different distributions for
different components in the portfolio.
For example, even neglecting correlations (which can be easily included
in this scheme), consider 2 components x and y,
dx = f_x dt + g_x dw_x
dy = f_y dt + g_y dw_y
where dw's are Wiener noise. The use of g's constants reduces to
Gaussian distributions, and using g_x=x and g_y=y reduces to lognormal
distributions. (Both distributions typically not very realistic as can
be seen by fitting actual market data.)
After fitting each market in the protfolio, e.g., fitting each g to
each market assuming some polynomial form, then StdDevs (the g's) can
be aggregated if one wishes to follow the approach given in the
referenced Kelly page, or they can be used for other approaches, etc.
Lester
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