From: jamesrheckman@gateway.netnospam (Jim Heckman) Subject: Re: Exceptional Lie algebras Date: 03 Mar 2001 09:55:32 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math Summary: Correspondence between Dynkin diagrams and polyhedra >From: "Marco" mdein@katamail.com >Date: 3/2/01 4:20 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <3a9f900d$1@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com> > >jamesrheckman@gateway.netnospam (Jim Heckman) wrote: > >>I don't know what to say, beyond "it's the geometry". Almost >>any book on Lie algebras and/or groups will derive all possible >>Dynkin diagrams, subject to the relevant geometrical constraints, >>and them construct the root systems in explicit detail. > >Thanks for the references. The reason why I asked was that I >noticed that if you take the platonic solids and order them by >the number of faces, then you take V+E+F for each one and >multiply it by the place in this sequence, then you get 14, 52, >78, 248, 310. Pity it doesn't work for E7, which has dimension >133. I know there's a correspondence between the Platonic >solids and the ADE algebras but AFAIK it doesn't extend to G2 >or F4. It's probably just a coincidence. Yeah, the ADE classification crops up all over the place in math, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if what you've discovered has some "deeper" meaning vis-a-vis it -- as another poster pointed out. BTW, there's at least one other way in which the Platonic solids correspond very definitely to Coxeter graphs. The solids are the 3-d versions of what are called regular convex polytopes, and it turns out every RCP has as its symmetry group the Weyl group of a 'non-branched' (i.e., not D or E) graph. The A_n graphs go with the n-d 'simplexes': the triangle in 2-d; the tetrahedron in 3-d; ... The n-d simplex is 'made' from (n+1) copies of the (n-1)-d simplex. The B/C_n graphs go with the n-d 'cross polytopes' and their duals the 'measure polytopes' (or 'hypercubes'). The n-d cross polytope is made from 2^n copies of the (n-1)-d simplex, so in 3-d it's the octahedron. The n-d hypercube is made from 2n copies of the (n-1)-d hypercube, so in 3-d it's the cube. F_4 goes with a very unique 4-d RCP made of 24 octahedrons, which is the *only* non-simplex self-dual RCP in *any* number of dimensions. H_3 (the H's are Coxeter graphs, but not Dynkin diagrams, since they don't satisfy the 'crystallographic' condition) goes with the 3-d dodecahedron and its dual the icosahedron. H_4 goes with the 4-d RCP made of 120 dodecahedrons, and its dual made of 600 tetrahedrons. And that's all there are. Beyond 4-d, the only RCPs are the simplex, and the cross and measure polytopes, 'because' there are no non-branched Coxeter graphs except for A and B/C. -- Jim Heckman