From: Alex Selby Subject: Re: algorithm about pi Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:52:08 +0100 Newsgroups: sci.math Summary: Limit of recursive sequence using the arithmetic-geometric mean. Boris LTSI wrote: > Hello, > there had a post on fr.sci.maths (france) about a problem that has not > been solved. If someone has an idea, I would be very happy to know it > here it is > let Y(0)=3+2^(3/2) > and > Y(n+1)=(Y(n)+(Y(n)^2-1)^(1/2))^2 > then the limit of Y(n)^(1/2^n) is exp(Pi) and no proof has been > proposed. There may exist a proof with modular forms and elliptic > functions, but we were looking on the french forum for a simpler proof. > (however, I'm not against a proof with elliptic K function ! and perhaps > arithmetic-geometric mean too, I don't know why... I feel that it could > be useful) > Some easy observations : > Y(n+1)-2*Y(n)*sqrt(Y(n+1))+1=0 > cosh(1/2*ln(Y(n+1)))=Y(n) > Regards > -- > Boris > http://www.pi314.net Hi Boris, I think you have to use arithmetic-geometric mean / elliptic K function. The question is how to transform your problem into AMGM form. Let AGM(a,b) denote the arithmetic-geometric mean of a and b (Replace (a,b) by (AM(a,b),GM(a,b))=((a+b)/2,sqrt(ab)) until it converges.) Let A(a)=AGM(a,1). Define T(n) by T(n)^(-2)+Y(n)^(-2)=1, T(n)>0 Then... Limit of Y(n)^(1/2^n) is exp(Q*pi/2), where Q=A(T(0))/T(0)/(A(Y(0))/Y(0)) It is slightly easier to see that this comes to exp(pi) in the case in question if you notice that Y(-1)=T(-1)=sqrt(2). So replacing Y(n) by Y(n-1) means that Q=1 and the limit is exp(pi/2)^2 = exp(pi). Proof of above formula: If a(n),b(n) are defined by AMGM, i.e., a(n+1)=AM(a(n),b(n)), b(n+1)=GM(a(n),b(n)), and c(n)=a(n)/b(n), then c(n+1)=AM(c(n),1)/GM(c(n),1) and inductively b(n)=Prod(r 1 as n --> infty, so Y(n) ~ 2^n.A(T(0)).A(Y(n)).Y(0)/(A(Y(0))T(0)) = 2^n.Q.A(Y(n)) where ~ means asymptotic to (ratio tends to 1). Now we use the fact that A(x) ~ pi.x/(2.log(x)) as x --> infty This can be proved using an integral representation for AGM(x,1) and some easy estimates. Given this, we have Y(n) ~ 2^n.Q.pi.Y(n)/(2.log(Y(n))), giving 2^(-n).log(Y(n)) ~ Q.pi/2, which is the answer above. Alex