Date: Mon, 20 Mar 95 12:44:12 CST From: rusin (Dave Rusin) To: smib@uia.ac.be Subject: Re: Need help with LINEAR ode (dear me) Newsgroups: sci.math In article <1995Mar17.091955.17948@reks.uia.ac.be> you write: >Suppose I have the following two-dimensional system of ode's: > >\dot x = a x - y >\dot y = x + a y >I want to follow the solution which goes through (-1,-a) (the orbit >is tangent to the line x=-1 there) for another turn, until it >hits the line x=-1 again. Question is: what is the y-coordinate >at that moment? You noted that what you need to do is solve an equation involving arctan and ln. Rather than exponentiate, take tangents: if I've done it right, you need to solve -y = tan ( ln( (1+y^2)/(1+a^2) )/(2a) + arctan(a) ). If you graph the function of y on the right side, you'll see a secant-like curve in the middle, with a low point a little below (0,a), and with asymptotes occuring where the term inside the tangent is +- pi/2. (These asymptotes are a little outside y = +- a ). Outside this curve, the rest of the graph is a collection of tangent-like curves to the right and cotangent-like curves to the left. In all cases, the location of the asymptotes is easily found: the y-coordinates are the values of y for which ln((1+y^2)/(1+a^2)) is (2a)*(-arctan(a) + odd multiples of pi/2) (they are spaced exponentially far apart on the y axis). The line through the origin with a slope of -1 is tangent to the first part of this graph at the point (-a,a). You asked for the next point of intersection, although I have lost track of the direction of time travel, so I dn't knw if this is right or left. In either case, it is clear from the graph that the next point of intersection is near the next asymptote, particularly if a is large. For example, the next one to the left occurs before the negative value of y having (1+y^2)/(1+a^2) = exp(-3a pi). exp( -2a arctan(a) ). I'm not sure what kind of answer you seek. An asymptotic formula valid for a close to 0 or for very large a is probably possible. Do you have any particular a in mind? dave