Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 23:51:24 +1000 From: [Permisson pending] To: rusin@washington.math.niu.edu Subject: in need of topological help [deletia -- djr] I have a curly question that I am stuck on - could you please help me? Let X nonempty, and (Y,s) be a topological space. Let {fi}, i in I be a family of functions with fi : X -> Y. Let t be the smallest topology on X : all functions fi are continuous (I can explain why this exists). If {x(a)}, a in A is a net in X, I can show that x(a) -> x in the t topology implies fi(x(a)) -> fi(x) for all i in I (easy) I have been trying to prove the converse, ie that fi(x(a)) -> fi(x) for all i in I implies x(a) -> x in the t topology without success. Can you help me? I start by assuming fi(x(a)) -> fi(x) for all i in I, of course. Then we go via contradiction ... Suppose that x(a) does not -> x in the t topology, ie suppose that there exists a U in t with x in U for all numbers N such that there is an n > N with x(n) not in U. {obviously I want to continue until I reach a contradiction of the continuity of the fi's.} By assumption [fi(x(a)) -> fi(x) for all i in I], for all V in s such that fi(x) is in V, there exists an M > 0 : m > M implies fi(x(m)) is in V. Then to gain the contradiction I think that I should show that f(inverse)i(V) is not in t. Here I am stuck. If you can help me, I wait with many thanks. If my notation is too awkward or the question unclear, could you please write back? If you are too busy, I understand. Please reply with a blank email. Thankyou so much for all of your time [Permission pending] ============================================================================== Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:51:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Rusin To: mufasa@ozemail.com.au Subject: Re: in need of topological help >Let X nonempty, and (Y,s) be a topological space. >Let {fi}, i in I be a family of functions with fi : X -> Y. >Let t be the smallest topology on X : all functions fi are >continuous (I can explain why this exists). > >If {x(a)}, a in A is a net in X, I can show that > >x(a) -> x in the t topology implies fi(x(a)) -> fi(x) for all i in I >(easy) > >I have been trying to prove the converse, ie that > >fi(x(a)) -> fi(x) for all i in I implies x(a) -> x in the t topology > >without success. Can you help me? Perhaps we have different terminology here but this seems straightforward. Your topology on X will consist of unions of finite intersections of sets of the form V_i = f_i^(-1)(U_i), U_i open in Y. In particular, any open set in X around x contains a finite intersection of such sets V_i where the corresponding U_i contain f_i(x). For each such i, if f_i(x(a)) -> f_i(x), then for all but finitely many a we must have f_i(x(a)) in U_i, so that x(a) lies in V_i for all but finitely many a. Thus x(a) lies in the intersection of all these V_i except for a finite union of finite sets of a's. dave