From: "Pierre Abbat" Subject: Re: p-Adic Numbers Date: 7 Nov 97 19:54:13 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math > The sequence n!/(n! + 1) converges to 1 in Q and to 0 in *every* Q_p. And here's a sequence that converges to 0 in Q, 1 in dyadics, and 0 in all other p-adics: a[n]=n!/2^m, where 2^m divides n! but 2^(m+1) does not b[n]=2^(n^2) sequence is a[n]/(a[n]+b[n]). phma ============================================================================== From: astephan@students.uiuc.edu (adam louis stephanides) Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: p-Adic Numbers Date: 9 Nov 1997 22:02:22 GMT "Pierre Abbat" writes: >> The sequence n!/(n! + 1) converges to 1 in Q and to 0 in *every* Q_p. >And here's a sequence that converges to 0 in Q, 1 in dyadics, and 0 in all >other p-adics: >a[n]=n!/2^m, where 2^m divides n! but 2^(m+1) does not >b[n]=2^(n^2) >sequence is a[n]/(a[n]+b[n]). In fact, what I stated on an earlier post can be generalized. Denote the i-th prime as p_i. Then for any real number r, and any sequence of "adics" a_i, where a_i is a p_i-adic number, there is a sequence of rationals that converges to r in the reals and to a_i in the p_i-adics for all i. Proof: I'll do the proof for the case where the a_i are p_i-adic integers; the general case isn't much more difficult, but introduces an extra complication. For any n, denote by f(n) the number (p_1*p_2*...*p_n)^n. The Chinese Remainder Theorem guarantees that there exists a rational q_n, with denominator (2^n)*f(n) + 1, whose distance in the reals from r is less than 1/2^n and which is p_i-adically "congruent" to a_i mod p_i^n, for 1 =< i =< n. The sequence q_n then converges to r in the reals and to a_i in the p_i-adics for all i. --Adam ============================================================================== From: Kurt Foster Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompatibility between different p-adics? Date: 24 Nov 1998 16:25:57 GMT In <365A5F84.2D2D7812@math.ucla.edu>, Mike Oliver said: . For a prime p, let Z_p be the ring of p-adic integers (i.e. they have a . base-p expansion extending infinitely many places to the left), and let . Q_p be its quotient field (whose elements have a natural base-p . expansion with infinitely many places to the left of the radix point, . and finitely many to the *right*). . How different are these structures for different values of p? . Depends how much of the "structure" you're worried about. The ordinary integers are a dense additive subgroup of Z_p for any given prime p. Similarly for the ordinary nonzero rationals in the multiplicative group of the nonzero elements of Q_p. For each p, the p-adic integers/rationals are a completion of the ordinary integers/rationals in the p-adic topology. However, the topologies for different values of p are inequivalent, and this is a well known basic result that should be covered in most any introductory treatment of valuations or p-adic fields and rings. The usual statement is to the effect that, given distinct primes p and q, there is an x in Q such that |x|_p < 1 and |x|_q > 1. The powers of such an x give a sequence converging to 0 in one topology, but to infinity in the other.