From: rusin@vesuvius.math.niu.edu (Dave Rusin) Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Counterexample to FLT! :-) (Was: Re: JSH: Afterword) Date: 11 Dec 1998 14:58:59 GMT On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 "James Harris" wrote: >I've also come up with (I hope) a better way to handle the >problem of defining f. Instead of the complex field I'm >certain that I can define it as a complex irrational.... chorn5751 wrote: >The problem with your approach is much more fundamental than >that. Take the case of cubes. The basic equation implies the >existence of specific integers F and M such that > > F^3 = (z-y) (1) > > M^3 = (z^2 + zy + y^2) (2) [valid objections to JSH deleted] Just to underscore the difficulties here, let me observe a counterexample to FLT for p=3: we have x^3 + y^3 = z^3 if x = -333396 + 403727 sqrt(-5) y = -333396 - 403727 sqrt(-5) z = 1158822 = 2 * 3^2 * 7 * 17 * 541 Of course these are not rational integers, so they're not really a counterexample to FLT, but there's no point in JSH's argument in which he uses the fact that x, y, z were in the ring of integers; indeed he himself begins discussing elements in rings like Z[sqrt(-5)] later on. Just to pre-empt cries of "Foul!" from the experts: Yes, there are early parts of JSH's argument in which he relies on unique factorization, which is lacking in this ring. I deliberately choose this solution over the simpler example 2 ^3 = (4 + sqrt(-5)) ^3 + (4 - sqrt(-5)) ^3 so as to get a solution (x,y,z) to which the first part of JSH's argument does apply: in this example, z-y is indeed a cube (of f = 78+41 sqrt(-5)) as is z^2+zy+y^2 (of m=7507 - 1230 sqrt(-5) ). (The big solution is the triple of the small one on the corresponding elliptic curve over Z[sqrt(-5)]. ) This particular ring is perfect for this application because it also makes JSH's arguments about "3's in the denominator" fall apart: we have an identity 3 / (2+sqrt(-5)) = (2-sqrt(-5)) / 3 in which there are more 3's in the denominator on one side than on the other. Is this number a multiple of 3 or isn't it? But you can find examples in UFDs, too, e.g. (10 sqrt(-2)) ^3 = (1 + 8 sqrt(-2))^3 + (-1 + 8 sqrt(-2))^3. Even if, by some miracle, he gets around to grappling with the inevitable non-principal ideals, there are further hurdles to FLT involving units. If he ever gets that far, I can find examples in rings with unit groups of positive rank, too, e.g. using x=-12+43 sqrt(15) or -246924+168275 sqrt(11). dave