From: Kevin Brown To: "'Dave Rusin'" Subject: RE: Number of Distinct Min-Energy Configs Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:33:44 -0700 Thanks for the message. Coincidentally, I had just been checking Neil's online encyclopedia for the integer sequence 0,1,1,1,3,2,4,4,6,7,20,3,28,9,21,12,14,18,52,26,69,17,48,... and was surprised not to find it, given his long-time interest in the Thomson problem, since this is the number of distinct distances in the (absolute) min-energy configuration of n electrons on a sphere. Also, I still haven't been able to find a tabulation of the number of (local) minimal configs for n electrons, although I did find a reference that says the number eventually grows exponentially, even though it is fairly small (often 1) for n less than 100. Jim Buddenhagen says he thinks there are at least two for n=22, but I've never been able to find more than 1. After n=16, the next n with multiple minimums that I can find is n=32, and I think n=40 has at least 3, and n=46 has at least 4. Neil's info seems to focus on the absolute global minimum, without trying to count all the local minima, and even for the global min config his tables list only the energy and a set of coordinates for the particles, with no assessment of the distances or symmetries. I'm particularly interested in the cases when a min configuration for n points contains a min config for m points as a subset. I'm eventually going to upload some pictures of these embeddings to my web page on this subject, which currently just has individual images, but doesn't show how any can be embedded in others. I've also just added a little Java applet to give an interactively viewable image of the interesting n=24 case, and will be adding Java's for the others when I get time. Regards, Kevin Brown ---------- From: Dave Rusin[SMTP:rusin@math.niu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 8:40 AM To: ksbrown@seanet.com Subject: Re: Number of Distinct Min-Energy Configs In article <352f2a6d.29657671@news.seanet.com> you write: >Let k(n) denote the number of distinct (up to rotation and >reflections) arrangements of particles on the surface of a >sphere such that the total potential energy is a (local) >minimum, assuming an inverse-square repulsive force between >the particles. > >(1) What are the values of k(n) for n=1 to 100? (I believe > k(n)=1 for all n<16, and k(16)=2.) You might consider sending these questions to Neil Sloane at bell labs; he's been using coulomb potential for point-dispersal for some time. He has a web page which a considerable amount of related information, with which you may already be familiar. dave