From: kramsay@aol.com (KRamsay) Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Fermat, Gödel, Wiles Date: 30 Sep 1998 21:05:52 GMT In article <36115b06.25041509@news.prosurfr.com>, jsavard@tenMAPSONeerf.edmonton.ab.ca (John Savard) writes: |The proof that undecidable statements exist is based on statements |having a very special form, such as "This statement cannot be proved |using the axioms of classical number theory". There hasn't been any |evidence that any mathematical statements of any real importance could |belong to this category, so this possibility is not too worrisome. Some progress has been made toward finding "ordinary" looking statements which are independent of particular axiom systems. One famous example is the Paris-Harrington statement, which is independent of Peano arithmetic (the first-order theory of arithmetic). For each integer k>0 and integer n>0 there is an integer N>n with the property that if to every subset of {n,...,N} is assigned an integer in {0,...,k-1} (which we think of as a "color"), then there is a subset S of {n,...,N} which is "monochromatic" in the sense that any two subsets of S having the same number of elements are assigned the same color. Keith Ramsay "Thou Shalt not hunt statistical significance with kramsay@aol.com a shotgun." --Michael Driscoll's 1st commandment