From: Ken.Pledger@vuw.ac.nz (Ken Pledger) Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Pasch Axiom Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:57:52 +1200 In article <1bRi1.772$dT6.415111@news.tpnet.pl>, "Kaziu" wrote: > Every models of Euklides geometry are isomorphic. ( i read it in polish book > Borsuk, Szmielew "Podstawy Geometrii"), but I heared many about Pasch Axiom. > In aritmetic model Pasch axiom holds. My question is : is Pasch Axiom is > realy very important? Can we proof Pasch Axiom ??? > > Kaziu You can't prove it from the other usual axioms (i.e. Pasch's axiom is independent of them); but I'm sorry I have no reference to a proof of that meta-theorem. Some years ago Dr L.W. Szczerba was working on it in Poland. This may help you in thinking about it. (I shall refer to the 1960 English translation of Borsuk & Szmielew.) The other axioms of order, O1-O8 (in Section 6), are purely 1-dimensional, so they lead to the theory of order on a line. But when you start looking at a plane, they give no way to relate the order on one line to the order on another line. That is roughly why you also need a 2-dimensional order axiom such as O9 (Section 18) or the equivalent Pasch axiom (Section 26). Ken Pledger.