From: victor@idaccr.org (Victor S. Miller) Subject: Re: Points of Order 13 on Elliptic Curves Date: 20 Mar 99 13:08:44 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math.numberthy Thanks for all the replies to my query. Before I sent in my query I was almost sure that the author was Josef Blass, at some university in the midwest. However, when I looked in Math. Reviews I couldn't find anything by him that resembled what I was looking for, so I decided that I was wrong. However, Ken Ribet and Armand Brumer also remembered Blass as the author -- he's now at Bowling Green State University, so I guess that that's the answer. Most likely the manuscript that I saw was never published. The problem has an interesting history. The paper by Billing and Mahler "On Exceptional Points on Cubic Curves" J. London Math. Soc. 15, (1940). 32--43. In it, they show how to find the singular planar equations for X_1(N) -- the curve parametrizing pairs (elliptic curves, points of order N), and give the explicit equations for N up to 15. They also then do a 2-descent on the elliptic curve X_1(11) to find that its Mordell-Weil group has order 5, thus showing that there is no rational elliptic curve with a rational point of order 11. Ogg later treated the case of N=17 ("Rational Points of Finite Order on Elliptic Curves" (Invent. Math., 12. 105-111 (1971))) and noticed that all of the N that were known to have points had X_1(N) genus 0. Of course later on this conjecture (which may not have been made in print) was proven by Mazur in his Eisenstein ideal paper (with the hard case of N=13 being handled in the Mazur-Tate paper cited before). Richard Pinch did point out the paper by Connell ("Points of Order 11 on Elliptic Curve" Nieuw Archief foor Wiskunde, 13(1995), pp 257-288), in which Connell also gives an elementary treatment of the X_1(11) case, but treats the problem of which quadratic fields Q(sqrt(m)) have an elliptic curve with a rational point of order 11. Finally, Bjorn Poonen mentions: "Back in 1995, I did a 2-descent on the Jacobian of the genus 2 curve classifying quadratic polynomials x^2+c together with points of period 2 and 3, and later I discovered that the curve had the same defining equation as X_1(13)!" Unfortunately, I still can't get in touch with Prof Blass as Bowling Green State's mail system is loused up. Some of you asked for copies of the paper if I find it. If I do, I'll send them to you. Victor Miller