From: israel@math.ubc.ca (Robert Israel) Subject: Re: Lorentz attractor definition Date: 17 Aug 1999 04:38:29 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math Keywords: chaotic ODE In article <7p8k2f$o4k$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, David Bernier wrote: >I think Lorentz's chaotic ODE is a three-variable ODE. specifically, x' = -sigma x + sigma y, y' = r x - y - x z, z' = -b z + x y, where sigma, r and b are constants. >I would suppose that the strange attractor orbit >X(t) is unique (up to reparameterization). How is >it defined? An attractor is a closed subset A of the phase space (R^3 in this case) such that 1) there is a nonempty open subset N of R^3 such that whenever (x0,y0,z0) is in N, the solution (x(t),y(t),z(t)) with initial value (x0,y0,z0) approaches A as t -> infinity. 2) there is no nonempty closed proper subset of A that has this property. > How about (x0, y0, z0) on X iff >X from time 0 onwards comes within epsilon of (x0, y0, z0) >for arbitrarily large times, no matter the choice of >positive epsilon? No. You didn't specify what the starting point is. There can be fixed points, unstable closed orbits, etc, that are not part of an attractor. > Is X(t) defined for all real t? >If you run X(t) backwards in time, is it bounded? In the Lorentz case, it's not bounded as t -> -infinity. Well, certainly there are solutions that are not (for x=y=0, you have z' = -bz). On the other hand, solutions do exist for all time: they can't run off to infinity in finite time, because (if R = sqrt(x^2+y^2+z^2)) (R^2)' = x x' + y y' + z z' = - sigma x^2 + (sigma + r) x y - y^2 - b z^2 = O(R^2) implies R^2 <= A exp(B |t|) for some A and B. Robert Israel israel@math.ubc.ca Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2