From: Dave Rusin Subject: Re: e and nth root of minus unity Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:00:49 -0500 (CDT) Newsgroups: [missing] To: cnelson9@gte.net Keywords: Generalizing trig identities to cover F(x)=exp(alpha*x) OK, I think I see what you want. If I'm right, the right interpretation is not that i and -i are pth roots of -1 (p=2) but rather that they are the primitive n-th roots of unity (n=4); what you are proposing is the special case of what I am about to say when n = 2*p (p=prime). For any fixed positive integer n we can define functions C_k(x) = Sum( zeta^(j*k) exp( zeta^j x ) , j in (Z/nZ)^* ) that is, the sum is taken over those integers j in the range [1, n] which are relatively prime to n. Here zeta=exp(2 pi i / n) is a fixed primitive n-th root of unity. Taking n=4 gives C_0 = -C_2 = 2*cos, C_1 = - C_3 = -2*sin, so these are generalizations of the usual sine and cosine; you might want, in the general case, to divide by an appropriate constant. These functions C_k can easily be checked to be real. You can recover the exponential functions from them, that is, for any integer r coprime to n, Sum( zeta^(r*k) C_k(x) , k=0..n ) = n * exp( zeta^(-r) x ) Depending on your point of view, this is all either standard number theory ("Gauss sums") or (group) representation theory ("orthogonality relations"). These functions have probably never been named, because they are trivially related to the exponential function (indeed, sine and cosine would probably never have been named either if they hadn't been discovered first!); you could look in the comprehensive formularies of special functions if you're determined to make sure they aren't individually studied. The sums of the squares of the C_k isn't constant, for most n. If we simply sum of the squares of the definitions of the C_k and interchange the order of summation, we do get some simplification, but it settles down to 2*n Sum( exp( (zeta^j + zeta^(-j)) x ), j in (Z/nZ)^* ) The case n=4 is exceptional here because there is only one term, with i^1 + i^3 in the exponent, and this happens to be zero ! You'll have to decide what you mean by "orthogonality", but the answer is likely to fall out of the definitions, too. For example, if you want to know whether or not Integral( C_k(x) C_l(x) dx, x=some interval ) is zero, you need only simplify a sum of some integrals of the exponential function. Since the functions C_k are not periodic for any n<>4, I can't suggest an appropriate interval over which to integrate. As far as >What is the geometrical interpretation of the functions that result? I must say you've prejudiced the issue by assuming there is one! I don't see that there's any particular geometrical interpretation at all, even to the sine and cosine function -- or more precisely, if I advance one geometrical interpretation it could easily be attacked as "not the right one" :-) Likewise I suggest you steer clear of content-free phrases like >the multidimensional meaning of the exponential When you get to this part >The nth root of minus unity for Bn numbers is I think you're departing from convential mathematical notation. If you can put the rest of your question into a standard framework I can try to help you out, but I must say I think Conway spoke for the mathematical community generally when he took a dim view of the fervor of synergistics in http://forum.swarthmore.edu/epigone/geom.research/tunquorblel (Likewise would a post to sci.math.research have to be expressed in the language of the math research community. You can attempt a translation using this approach by Chapman: http://forum.swarthmore.edu/epigone/sci.math.research/querdphextwox I take it from his comments that your questions about "B_n numbers" are supposed to be questions about some particular associative (and commutative?) algebras over the reals; a question about such rings may well be appropriate for sci.math.research -- or at least easy to answer.) I might take this opportunity to mention a website I maintain which attempts to guide people to the appropriate parts of mathematics for your query: welcome.html The topics mentioned in this letter can be found in various sections: 11-number theory 13-commutative rings and algebras 16-associative rings and algebras 20-group theory 33-special functions I suppose, depending on how serious you are in this query, that you might also want to look at 42: Fourier analysis or one of the allied areas, where orthogonal bases of function spaces would arise. dave