From: baez@math.ucr.edu (John Baez) Subject: Re: Poincare Conjecture Date: 9 Nov 1999 08:00:06 -0600 Newsgroups: sci.math.research Keywords: Classification algorithms in topology -- Poincare conj. undecidable? In article , Stephen Paul King wrote: >I have a question about the Poincare Conjecture. Is it possible that >the classification of 3-manifolds is undecidable in a Goedel's >Incompleteness sense? As far as I know this is an open question, bracketed by the following results: 1) it was shown by Markov that there is no algorithm to classify compact 4-manifolds 2) it was shown by Thurston and Haken that there is an algorithm to classify knots. Using the ideas behind the proof of 1), I think you can cook up pairs of 4-manifolds for which it is undecidable in ZF set theory whether they are homeomorphic or not. I don't know if there is an algorithm to classify links. Since the 4-dimensional version of Poincare's conjecture was only proved by Freedman in the 1980s, I don't think it's time to give up hope on the 3d version just yet. (All the dimensions above 4 were done earlier by Smale.)