From: israel@math.ubc.ca (Robert Israel) Subject: Re: Transformed Poisson distribution equals ... Date: 7 Jan 1999 01:09:47 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math In article <3693C25F.41C6@gwdg.de>, Daniel Weiss wrote: >Given a random variable A with Poisson distribution (mean a, >std. dev. sqrt(a)), and given B=log(A), what can be said about B: It's undefined when A = 0 (which occurs with positive probability in any Poisson distribution). >- Is it still Poisson distributed? In that case, what mean > and standard deviation? I tried evaluating the sum > E(B)=Sum(log(i)*p(i)) instead of E(A)=Sum(i*p(i)) (with p(i) the > Poisson probability for i events), but didn't succeed. Undefined, because log(0) is undefined. Or -infinity if you wish. >The reason for my question: I am counting photons from a coherent source >(Poisson distributed), and am using the negative logarithm of the >photon count to determine absorption in the probe. I am interested in >the statistical properties of the derived variable 'absorption'. So your "a" is large enough that A=0 is extremely unlikely, and to avoid the unpleasantness at 0 you might as well define, say, B = { log(A) if A > 0 { 0 if A = 0 I doubt that you'll find exact "closed-form" formulas for the mean or other moments, but for large a you can find asymptotic formulas. Write B = log(a) + log(1 + (A-a)/a) = log(a) + (A-a)/a - (A-a)^2/(2a^2) + (A-a)^3/(3a^3) - ... so the mean is E[B] = log(a) + E[A-a]/a - E[(A-a)^2]/(2a^2) + E[(A-a)^3]/(3a^3) - ... = log(a) - 1/(2 a) + 1/(3a^2) + O(a^(-3)) Similarly B^2 = log(a)^2 + 2 log(a)(A-a)/a + ... (I'm too lazy to write out so many terms) from which you can get the variance and standard deviation of B. Robert Israel israel@math.ubc.ca Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2