From: JeffLeader@MindSpring.com (Jeffery J. Leader) Subject: Re: Cauchy principal value Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 08:19:20 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math John Saccente wrote: >What is >the significance of the CPV? How does it differ from an ordinary >improper integral? The integral of f(x) from -inf. to inf. exists only if the integral of f(x) from -inf. to 0 and the integral of f(x) from 0 to inf. both exist. Hence, the doubly improper integral of f(x)=x fails to exist (the left half gives -inf., the right half gives +inf.). The CPV is the limit (as B-->inf.) of the integral from -B to B of f(x). Hence, the CPV of the doubly improper integral of f(x)=x exists because the integral from -B to B of f(x)=x is always zero (the neg. half cancels out the pos. half). So, we use the CPV when--say, on physical grounds--we want integrals like that to be zero (or whatever), not undefined. Examples include the Cauchy dist. in statistics, which has a mean in the CPV sense but not in the classical sense, and examples in PDEs (say, via complex maps) where this is a physically meaningful interpretation. The usual sense of the doubly improper integral is a more restrictive notion--notice that the CPV can give a finite value to the integral of a function which is unbounded as x-->+/- infinity, which may seem a bit strange. ============================================================================== From: rusin@vesuvius.math.niu.edu (Dave Rusin) Subject: Re: Cauchy principal value Date: 6 Feb 1999 19:41:18 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math John Saccente wrote: >What is >the significance of the CPV? How does it differ from an ordinary >improper integral? Jeffery J. Leader wrote: [ valid answer deleted; it carried the reminder that ] >The CPV is the limit (as B-->inf.) of the integral from -B to B of f(x). One can also define the CPV for integrals around a singularity, e.g. integral_[-1,1] (1/x) dx Leader continued, >Notice that the CPV can give a finite value to the integral of >a function which is unbounded as x-->+/- infinity, which may seem a >bit strange. Yes, and what's worse, the CPV is _not_ a "stable" value for the integral; if you evaluate the integral using change-of-variables you might get a different answer. For example, it seems absolutely reasonable to allow the substitution x = u+1 in the integral integral_(-oo,oo) x dx, but upon doing so we obtain a CPV not of zero but of lim_{B -> oo} [ (B+1)^2/2 - (B-1)^2/2 ] = +oo dave