From: James Propp[SMTP:propp@math.wisc.edu] Subject: the MW group of the taxicab cubic Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 7:50 PM To: NMBRTHRY@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU I think most of us know the story about Ramanujan and Hardy and the taxi and the equation x^3+y^3=1729, and the fact (12,1) and (10,9) are both on the curve. But what doesn't seem to have entered the peripheral folklore of this problem is the answer to the question: do these points generate the Mordell-Weil group of this particular elliptic curve? Noam Elkies tells me, courtesy of the program mwrank, that the rank is indeed 2. I gather that with more work, someone a bit more conversant than I am with elliptic curves could get mwrank to actually determine whether or not these two points generate the full MW group. Thanks, Jim Propp ============================================================================== From: rlward1@orion.ncsc.mil (Robert L. Ward) Subject: Re: the MW group of the taxicab cubic Date: 10 Nov 99 16:16:22 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math.numberthy I used MAGMA to answer this question. The minimal model of this curve is: Y^2 + Y = X^3 - 20178727, its discriminant is -3^9*7^4*13^4*19^4, and its conductor is 80714907 = 3^3*7^2*13^2*19^2. The transformation to get this equation from x^3 + y^3 = 1729 is X = 5187/(y+x), Y = (7780*y-7781*x)/(x+y), x = (7780-Y)/(3*X), y = (7781+Y)/(3*X). I issued the following commands: E := EllipticCurve([0,1,0,0,-20178727]); MW,h := MordellWeilGroup(E); P := h(MW.1); Q := h(MW.2); Then P turned out to be (273,409) and Q to be (399,6583), which correspond to the Ramanujan solutions of the original equations. Thus MAGMA asserts that generators of the Mordell-Weil group of the curve are indeed the Ramanujan points. Robert L. Ward ---------- [previous article quoted --djr] ============================================================================== From: twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Tom Womack) Subject: Ranks of Fermat curves Date: 16 Nov 99 19:46:10 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math.numberthy Keywords: curves defined by x^3+y^3=N For an MMath dissertation, I computed the two smallest values of N such that x^3+y^3=N had precisely 5 solutions with x,y both positive - these are N_1=48988659276962496 and N_2=490593422681271000. I think I'm the third independent discoverer of N_1 (D J Bernstein has it buried somewhere on his home page, and http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/JIS/wilson10.html is an article by D W Wilson describing how he found both it and N_2); I'm sure it ought to be more widely known. During the dissertation, I also found the upper bound for N(6 solutions) given in Dr Wilson's paper. I've just started a PhD at Nottingham under John Cremona, who gave me access to some clever software for computing EC ranks; his findinf program found seven independent points on the minimal Weierstrass model for N_1, and at least five for N_2. Apecs gives an upper bound of 7 for the rank of the curve for N_1 and of 8 for N_2, so we have rank(N_1) = 7 and know rather little about N_2. What's the largest known rank for this class of curve? Elkies says that rank 12 is known for sextic twists, but that this is a cubic twist and that he doesn't know the record in that case. Tom ============================================================================== From: jbuddenh@texas.net (James Buddenhagen) Subject: Re: Ranks of Fermat curves Date: 18 Nov 99 14:18:12 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math.numberthy I don't know the answer to your questions, but one of my favorite elliptic curves is the Ramanujan curve (if I may coin a name): U^3 + (U+21)^3 = 8^3 + V^3. It is certainly related to your family, so possibly might be of interest. It is noteworthy because in the form given above it is the 'simplest' rank 7 curve that I know of. I found it playing with APECS in 1993. --Jim Buddenhagen Tom Womack wrote: [previous article quoted --djr] ============================================================================== [The curve x^3 + y^3 = N is transformed to the normal form Y^2 = X^3 - (432 N^2) under the transformation X=12*N/(x+y), Y=36*N*(x-y)/(x+y) --djr]