From: David Bernier Subject: Re: JSH: Email revisted re my proof of FLT Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:43:07 GMT Newsgroups: sci.math Keywords: Wiles on the discovery of the gap In article <37CAA7C5.5C6B8696@math.okstate.edu>, "David C. Ullrich" wrote: > James Harris wrote: > > > [...] > > > > What I find most interesting about this email is that the emailer has > > indicated understanding exactly what I'm doing and has raised what one must > > suppose is their biggest objection. I've handled the objection without real > > difficulty, so it's reasonable for me to suppose that there remains no > > mathematical or logical reason for the emailer to think it's not a proof. > > That's not how it works. People keep pointing out errors and > incoherencies (aka undefined terms), and you keep "answering" > them, then saying "aha, so it's right". You should conclude that > someone thinks you have a correct proof when someone actually > says that they think your proof is correct. So what is rigor really? How does someone convince "the world" :) that an argument is valid? First of all, by answering all questions like "what does this mean?" or "please explain this point further, I don't understand..." Copying from the transcript of the NOVA episode "The Proof" [1] : ANDREW WILES: It was a wonderful feeling after seven years to have really solved my problem. I'd finally done it. Only later did it come out that there was a problem at the end. NICK KATZ: Now, it was time for it to be refereed, which is to say, for people appointed by the journal to go through and make sure that the thing was really correct. So, for two months, July and August, I literally did nothing but go through this manuscript line by line, and what this meant concretely was that essentially every day, sometimes twice a day, I would e-mail Andrew with a question: "I don't understand what you say on this page, on this line. It seems to be wrong," or "I just don't understand." ANDREW WILES: So, Nick was sending me e-mails, and at the end of the summer, he sent one that seemed innocent at first, and I tried to resolve it. NICK KATZ: It's a little bit complicated, so he sends me a fax, but the fax doesn't seem to answer the question, so I e-mail him back, and I get another fax, which I'm still not satisfied with. And this, in fact, turned into the error that turned out to be a fundamental error, and that we had completely missed when he was lecturing in the spring. ANDREW WILES: That's where the problem was, in the method of Flach and Kolyvagin that I'd extended. So, once I realized that at the end of September, that there was really a problem with the way I'd made the construction, I spent the fall trying to think what kind of modifications could be made to the construction. There are lots of simple and rather natural modifications that any one of which might work. [...] [1] http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/proof/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ============================================================================== [The video is available as an "educator video" and appears in the list of titles as "Proof, The". The current URL seems to be http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/shop/novavideo.html#educator --djr]